- Interviewer: Fabri Blacklock
- Date: 14/11/2013
John Kinsela is a Wiradjuri man and this interview is part of the ‘Honouring Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island Service Men and Women’ project. In this interview John talks about conscription, physical training, active service in Vietnam, and his alternative career as an Olympic athlete. In the excerpt below he recalls his uncle, Captain Reginald Saunders MBE, the first Indigenous Australian to be commissioned as an officer in the Australian Army.